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    November 25, 2013
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country in space, kneneil. i'm sorry, that's the way it is. the thing about it, we have to give our young kids, those teenagers out there -- >> you're right, gene. >> follow-on generation something to believe in, something they think they can make happen. >> it's the special this weekend. >> hello, it's 5:00 in new york city, this is "the five." big show today. lots to get to. including iran crushing us at the nuclear bargaining table leaving only our key ally israel alone and surrounded by people who want to kill them. some big storms that may make it harder for you to get home this thanksgiving. we'll tell you who's going to get hit and when. first, more dishonest from the white house on obama care. americans don't trust the administration and for good reason. they haven't been straight forward about anything. "the new york times," of all
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places, reporting over the weekend what we told you about all along. the president's health care law is about taking from one group and giving to another. aka redistributing. here's the key quote from "the new york times," reminding us what the administration has been trying to hide all along. quote, the redistribution of wealth has always been a central feature of the law and lies at the heart of insurance market disruptions driving political attacks this fall. conservatives like me think he's a socialist. but the president doesn't always see it that way. here's what he said last week. >> i would distinguish between the rhetoric and the tactics. >> yeah. >> versus the ideological differences. i mean, in most countries, you've got -- people called me a socialist sometimes. no, you've got to reach real socialists. you'll have a sense of what a socialist is. >> he's not a real socialist. he's just a fake socialist. >> but he's not bob.
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>> bob, come on, this is redistribution. "the new york times" calling it redistribution. >> certainly is. to call him a socialist is really just obscene and absurd. >> wait, redistribution, isn't that the very heart of socialism? >> you'd have to -- there's a lot about social system historically. is there redistribution? of course. that's something those of us on the left believe very strongly about. you don't agree. most people around this table don't agree. there does have to be, if you're going to take a finite pot of money that's going to be available, you have to have some redistribution. >> that's why i love bob. because bob is not a decepticons. meaning, in order to achieve their aim, they mask their ideological ideologically. whatever you say about them,
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they tell you what they believe inero win, they have to lie. they slip it in a glove of compassion. that's how they get you. at least bob doesn't deny it. he says it's there. the problem with the logic is you're talk about a finite pot. that's what happens. when you deal with redistribution. nothing is ever grown. you're stuck with the same stuff you have to keep on moving around. >> and maybe you're right, bob, maybe redistribution isn't necessarily socialism. i would certainly say it's a big part. let me be fair. maybe we don't live with the socialist president. maybe we have a president who simply believes in the welfare state. >> well, i don't know what they're calling themselves. i do think it's interesting that bob can have that honest answer here but the white house or unnamed white house officials once again are on background trying to shape a story in "the new york times" saying, no, no, no, no, we're not for redistribution.
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this was about reducing the cost of health care. which, one, it is proving it isn't doing. president obama said something about trying to take away the rhetoric and strip that away and then what you have. the problem is the reality versus the fantasy. on many topics. in particular on obama care. today, this morning, they had a major delay on the website. about an hour and a half disruption. can you imagine if you are a mom or dad and you own a business and you're thinking, i want to get this taken care of before thanksgiving. i want to enjoy the holidays with my family. try to get on on a monday morning and you can't even get that done. the anxiety that is added to the people's frustration with the government is leading to pick young polls that have the president collapsing not just in competence but in trust. and i think that's where the white house has a very serious problem. >> k.j., president obama, smells like a pig, oichks like a pig, but president obama wants you to believe it's a beautiful little pony. >> i think pigs are beautiful. but i think this stirvegs.
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stinks. what i don't like is dishonesty. it offends me they think the american people are naive and aren't going to figure this out. they have to ban words. don't call it terrorists. don't call it redistribution. come out and say exactly what you believe and what you think the direction of this country should be. like deblauso. he's quite frank about what he thinks should happen in new york. you know, redistribution of the wealth. remember joe the plumber and president obama saying "share the wealth" like that's what he really believes. own it then. >> fair share, opportunity. >> i don't believe obama, like me or others, for a single payer plan. because they kept the insurance companies involved in this. when i say finite growth, what is growing is the cost of health care. that's one of the reasons people wanted health care reform. well before obama. for good reason. it was groeg. premiums were growing. at some point there's only so much of your family budget that can go towards paying premiums.
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so you do have to, it seems to me, have to figure out a way to get some of this -- payments for your premiums and charge you more than you charge a poor guy -- >> the problem, what it was supposed to do, aka bend the cost curve down, hasn't done any of that. >> that was a flawed premise. >> that's because you believe the capital system is going to do that. i don't. >> neither does the socialist system we're under now. >> free market is better. >> here's president obama just an hour or so ago regarding -- listen, this guy is so disillusioned. just listen. >> even as we're getting this darned website up to speed, it's getting better, states like california are proving the law works. people want the financial security of health insurance. even if you're already insured, reach out to a friend or neighbor who's not and help them get covered. >> i feel bad for you having to defend this time and time again. here's president obama -- >> not that bad --
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states like california, here's where the law's working. 1.1 million americans have lost their health insurance in the same time 80,000 people have enrolled in obama care. how is it working? >> first of all, you're being -- they have not lost it yet. they've given notice. it's going to be january 1. they have between now and january 1 to find either government subsidies to help them pay for it or another plan they can afford to do it. i don't know whether they'll be able to do it or not. when he talks about california, it's true. the demand in california for -- the information about this is enormous. as is a lot of places in the country. the problem is they can't get to the information they need to have to find out whether it works for them. yes, it is -- i'll get back ton this. it is redistribution. it is. >> the truth, i like it. >> is the white house just cut you off their christmas card list. >> that happened a long time ago. >> it's not just president obama. it's the media and president obama who are linguistic cross dressers. why do they put on a dress? because they cannot --y
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cannot expose coercive force. none wants it. that's why it's coercive. you've got to romanticize it as it's good for everybody. they don't tell you they're taking from that person to give to that one. it's just they're getting it. they're linguistic cross dressers. i'm coining that phrase. >> i like it. >> any thoughts on the recent sound bite? >> one thing that's bothering me about it is something i think the obama team has done from the very beginning which is to pit people against one another. we talk about redistribution. it's not that people who earn -- who have a good job and earn a living don't want to pay taxes. you want to pay taxes for systems that work. when you talk about reform, it's actually to make things better to see if you can reduce costs. we knew -- we were called all sorts of names for saying this experiment was not going to work. now that it's not working, not only were you -- right to where
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you were before, now you're also accused of being selfish because you don't want to pay into a system that's not working. they're masters at pitting americans against each other. very unfortunate ball iternrtun not going to solve a single problem. >> i think it's time to stop talking. it's my piece of advice. try to come out every day and -- then something else goes wrong. the progressive tax system is redistribution. >> absolutely. >> you live under a progressive tax system, what -- and you accept it, i mean, i happen to be for a flat tax. if you believe in a progressive tax system, then you believe in redistribution. >> or you accept it and you don't necessarily -- >> well, it needs to go -- the further -- >> you don't call it socialism. >> like i said, i said it -- probably unfair calling it socialism. i pointed to dana, said, is it fair to say the welfare state instead of socialism? those are two different things.
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>> you could say the welfare state. the tax system that's been put together. when you talk about 47% of the people don't pay taxes. whatever it is. then that i suppose you could say that's part of the welfare system. i don't believe that's part of the welfare system in a progressive tax structure. >> here's the problem, it doesn't work. we're just getting more and more in debt. it's a flawed system. the framework has absolutely no support structure to it. so it's collapsing by the minute. and, you know, it's just really irresponsible for the rest of the future generations to sit here and take it and keep adding on to the debt and more entitlement and more programs and unfairly taxing. >> the vast majority of the country is for raising taxes -- >> if that's the case, why deny it? you've studied as a liberal progressive your entire life to be this person. and you won. so why are you hiding it? and why do you pretend to be something you're not? why do you mention capitalism as
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a goal when you hate capitalists? >> the left is not buying into this that you guys -- that this guy's a liberal. >> let's stay on obama care. how al franken, probably one of the more liberal senators, let's see what he has to say. >> i think we then have to consider extending the deadline for the mandate. but let's hope that doesn't happen. >> hope is not a great political strategy. it's not good policy. hope, it leads to big dreams and little action on the ground. government doesn't do hope well. so i think you're going to find by december -- i'm sorry, november 30th, six days from now, the website won't be what they thought it was going to be. i don't know how they're going to measure 80% effective. how do you measure 80%? 80% of what? how will they know? >> they'll just say it is. >> this could go on in pert attitude. >> this is his campaign, right, hope and change. >> they want us to -- >> and hope --
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>> -- we've talked about a couple of times here, the irs. the irs is charged with making sure you pay the fine -- i'm association the tax if you don't have obama care. it's 95 bucks or 1% of your agi. >> adjusted gross income. >> they have no teeth to do it. they can't garnish your wages. they can't take you to court. this is one of the three legs on the three legged stool. you pull out, the thing's falling over. >> if we were -- let's be honest. let's have an honest discussion. i don't think obama necessarily buys into this but there are a lot of people on the left who believe there ought to be a single payer plan. >> i don't want government health care -- >> i know you don't -- >> because government health care does not do a good job of taking care of people. >> do you agree that now, with the old system, that there was two brands of health care? both for wealthier people and -- >> i think it will be worse for obama care. pay for doctors that they choose to have and everybody else who
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has to pay for doctors who are left over in the medicare system -- >> oh, and now there's more uninsured americans than ever. nice job. >> when i moved to london, i went to sign up for the nhs. that's their single payer. nobody -- anybody who had a salary said, you're crazy and you have these private boutiques that took care of you. >> you want to talk about socialized medicine? you go single payer, there it is. pure and simple. >> i would agree with that. i have no problem with that. living in a society that socializes its medical system. >> go back over to england where greg was. it's not pretty. look at his teeth. >> the sellout. all right, sorry. did president obama sellout israel in the new deal with the iran mullahs? and wicked weather you will want to know about. stay tuned for that on "the five."
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welcome back to "the five." the obama administration announced a deal they believe will help prevent iran from developing a nuclear weapon. the reaction was mixed. >> these are substantial limitations which will prevent iran from building a nuclear weapon. >> israel is safer than it was yesterday. >> it's an historic mistake. it's not made the world a safer place. >> this is the opening gun of a nuclear arms race in the middle east. >> the worst, practically the worst, of all possible outcomes. because now what you have here is a nuclear capable state. >> we have just rewarded very bad and dangerous behavior. >> this might be be a diversionary tactic by the administration, which is desperately looking for good news. >> all right, we're going to kick this around here. so eric, even if you appreciate the goal of what the administration is trying to do, and support the concept so that the president, any president of
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the united states isn't put into a position of having to make that decision, but what trouble, me is everyone i respect and read and think intellectually about things that i pay attention to, they're all saying it's a terrible deal. is there something in this negotiation that those people are not seeing? >> i haven't found anything. and i read almost the details of the deal that the iranians -- basically what the deal breaks down to. we're going to lift -- not all of them but a lot of the financial sanctions that have frankly worked with iran. they'll be able to get petrel dollars again, sell minerals around the world and get cash. i'm trying to figure out what we got out of the deal. 20% uranium. they'll have to bring it down to 3%. they're not destroying it. they'll deleilute it back down 3%. we'll have to believe they're really doing that.
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we haven't asked them to dismantle any of the centrifuges. we haven't asked them to dismantle their big heavy water centrifuge. all these things are in place so they can create a nuclear weapon. we haven't asked them to do that. i guess what we're getting though is u.n. inspectors in the door and hopefully they're not tricked. >> bob, one of the things that also happened this weekend in "the new york times" by unnamed administration officials, they were saying that the big idea here was to give iran a taste of sanctions relief to see if iran might agree to real concessions later. this is an administration official admitting this. the same time john kerry is saying this is real. do you think they have a messaging problem? >> they have a messaging problem. this is five big, six big hours who agreed to this. the sanction the united states will lift is about 5%. what do we get out of it? one, they're not going to be able to get any new centrifuges. my question to all these people.
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netanyahu's position was the same as these others speaking. that is, they do not trust them at all. my answer is, in the meantime, nothing's happened and we let -- they continue to move down the road. why can't we give six months anded have inspectors in there that know what they're looking at and at least give it a shot? if it doesn't work, we can put inspections -- >> hey, you're bookie's calling you. the white house is, like -- >> i think those are positive developments. >> this is not positive if you -- oh, i'm sorry. >> no, go ahead. >> it's not positive. if you take a realistic look at it, it's put us smack dab in the middle of the middle east tensions, between the sunni and shiite wars. and now our new besties. we're alienating our most powerful allies by making this deal. it's a faustian deal at best because these are people who have never honored any agreement. once again the u.s. the country
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with the soft hands. >> what's the alternative? >> don't do deals with terrorists. >> it is greg's turn, uninterrupted. i'll ask you this question about language. how important is language, of being precise? do you think it is okay for the united states, the white house to come out and say they do not -- we're not giving them an implicit right to develop nuclear uranium. >> right. >> but iranians, they went home and that's what they said they got out of the deal. they were told they now have a right. isn't language here -- >> yes, it's weird. basically, they can keep their centrifuges. if they like them. here's what i don't understand. they can keep their centrifuges, but we can't have a keystone pipeline? that drives me nuts. because the fact is, the best way to get out of this bizarre world that is the middle east is to develop your own oil power. which is what the united states is. does this mean also that i can torment gays and treat women as crap?
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i'll get $7 billion? because that what we just did. it worries me our adversaries are happier than our allies. i'm suspicious when people i don't trust like "the guardian" call it a major achievement. when people who are bozos think it's wonderful, that scares me. >> then you know it's wrong. >> the other thing is do other planets have the middle east? is it just the earth's problem? does neptune have a fierrery cy on its butt? it's like your buddy that you wish would move but he won't move so you have to keep going over to the middle east and visit him. >> the germans are behind this 100%. here's the difference -- >> yeah, because they want to sell oil. it's all about oil. >> it's not all about oil. it's far more complex than that, come on. this is something, if you let this go -- >> i can't breathe -- >> -- they will develop a nuclear weapon. you sit there and say, don't do anything with these people -- >> and they will develop a
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nuclear weapon. >> can i ask, if it's much bigger, what is it about? why did the iranians need 1600 centrifuges? why did they need to enrich uranium? they have 2.5 million barrels of oil. you know what they're doing here, they're enriching ur ran yam and exporting it to countries that need a bomb. >> they want to develop a nuclear weapon. >> okay so -- >> you want to sit back and just be mute and be, oh, let's be tough about iran, in the meantime, they develop a nuclear weapon. >> you want sanctions on iran -- >> no, a small percentage. >> we'll lift them all. just dismantle your centrifuges. deal. good-bye. >> bob, you have been on this case for many months, on behalf of the american being held in iran, being denied medicines, you're the one calling on iran to do something. the state department actually
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said that they did not even bring up that he was not mentioned in the discussion. why would they even say that? >> i suppose to preempt somebody like me and others. as part of this deal, i certainly would have done that. >> is that the least they could do? >> that's the least they could do. they don't have genuine humanitarian concerns. by the way, wait for it within the next 12 weeks. north korea going to fire a couple missiles again because no one -- >> isprediction? coming up, al sharpton finally condemns the brutal knockout games. did he do enough? later, the list of least influential celebrities. bob is very excited it one of the names on the list. stay with us.
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♪ you're just what i needed ♪ i needed someone all right, welcome back to "the five." we told you about the brutal knockout games that have been happening all over the country where thugs surprise unsuspecting victims and punch them trying to knock them out. many people have called on african-american leaders to condemn the brutal game. since much of the violence is black on white crime. now, this weekend, al sharpton finally broke his silence about the deadly attacks. >> this kind of behavior is deplorable and must be condemned by all of us. if somebody was running around talking about knocking out blacks, we would not be silent. >> he stopped short of calling for marches like he's done during the trayvon martin case. but did he go far enough? the fact he brought it up, was that sufficient? or should he have done something
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further? >> the two statements he made, they were just fine. i mean, i think he made that point. he said, if it was white on black, we wouldn't be talking about it. yes, he may not have called for marches but i think he finally came out and did this. it was the right thing to do. the next step, i'd like to see the ministers of the pulpits do it. i think that al sharpton is an important person to come out with this. >> so bob is happy. >> i'm trying to figure out why we only talk about these things when it's black on white or white on black. like al sharpton said, if it was white on black crime. how about it's a bad thing? it's an evil practice. people should condemn it across the board. >> we been calling for sharpton to do this and now he's doing it so i mean -- >> did you call him? >> i did. >> tell that story. >> he was too busy to talk to me but don't worry there was a violinist that was going to condemn it that night. which was friday night. i'm just trying to figure out, by the way, they call it polar
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bear hunting. i didn't know about it. i wasn't sure if it was black on white crime. polar bear hunting. wow. >> did you know if it was actual polar bears, the left would be going crazy. you'd have peta going nuts. but it's white people. that's okay. >> they can't find them because they're all drowning in the arctic. >> they're stuck on ice. oh, please don't punch me. >> actually they are, you know. >> no, there are more polar bears now than there have been in 20 years. i have to say, you know, as somebody who i despite al sharpton, ever since this stuff and the crown heights stuff. he's been responsible in some really ghastly deeds that he's gotten away with. at least this is a start. shows us how desperate we are. that we're happy that al sharpton finally said something. it had a lot to do with bob calling him out. i think it's good. it shouldn't just be him. they should be focusing on gangs specifically. not just this. i don't know if it's a game. i don't likege.
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>> it's not a game. >> it's a crime. >> that's just an educated guess. >> i think the problem is that -- who will these criminals listen to? al sharpton doesn't carry the kind of influence. the ministers don't hardly have anybody in their pews to talk to. so who is it that could actually talk to them? is it through tough love or is it through -- greg gutfeld? >> no. >> i think you have to start early on in childhood -- >> well, when there's no family structure -- >> who's going to do it? >> where are the fathers? >> president obama said if i had a son, he'd look like trayvon martin. >> you'd like him to talk about it? >> why not? >> you said -- >> my point was going to be i think that the -- that president obama -- i'm not asking him because -- not to get involved in every little -- i shouldn't say this is a little fight. is there a point in which
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president obama can exert some influence where other black leaders like al sharpton doesn't have that kind of pull with younger people anymore? >> it's not violence like this, but who speak, out in the white community about following blacks in stores when they go to shop? >> can i talk about another case -- >> i'd rather be followed around in a shop than punched randomly. >> remember, we covered this a lot, it was all over the media. speaking of crime. it was the accusations, false accusation, as it turns out, made by a person against the duke lacrosse players. well, she's actually been convicted of second degree murder. she stabbed her boyfriend to death and is looking at about the 18 years behind bars, greg. >> oh, no, it's just -- i'm just curious where everybody was that we're busy indicting these lacrosse players. nancy grace, that corpse-chasing pumpkin in a fright wig, practically called on these guys every day.
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remember the duke faculty guys that were -- where are they? where are all these people now that -- now that this woman is now going to jail for murder? >> okay, well, worked with nancy grace, she's a nice lady, she's -- >> -- zimmerman's girlfriend called him a monster, where are we then? >> that's a good point actually -- >> nancy grace was all over that story. >> we have said that zimmerman is a tool. i think we didn't lionize him, did we? >> greg, anything? he's talking in my ear. go ahead. >> no, i'm good, i'm good. >> you got nothing on this? >> no, i'm good. >> no crystal -- >> no, no. >> i'll excuse myself. >> you went to duke? >> i did. >> for a party? >> no. >> coming up, we're going to get that during t break. a rapper gets into the racial
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live from the fox news extreme weather center. tracking this potentially deadly storm as it cruises across the gulf coast states. eventually pushing up to the mid-atlantic and the northeast in the next 48 hour. taking a look at your satellite radar imagery. by tuesday afternoon into the evening, tons of rain across the mid-atlantic. line here of freezing rain and sleet. we could get in excess of 6 to 12 inches of snow on the back side of this storm. the worst of the weather moving through the i-95 corridor tuesday evening overnight and into wednesday. another wave moves through of
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rain and wind and snow. southeast, we could see the potential for severe weather. wednesday, heavy rain here. tuesday, into thursday, moving into the new england area. people need to be on alert. i'm janice dean live from the fox news extreme weather center. ♪ >> the headline from "usa today" says it all, an artist with a conscious. looking to extend his 15 minutes of fame into 20. he did this by using last night's american music awards to condemn racial profiling. >> it is a fact we are in florida tonight accepting this award. i want to acknowledge trayvon martin and the hundreds and hundreds of kids each year that are dying due to racial profiling. and the violence that follows it. this is really happening.
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these are our friends, our neighbors, our peers and our fans and it's time that we look out for the youth and fight against racism and the laws that protect it. >> hundreds. apparently he's a bit behind in the news but at least he knows how to kneel before the altar of political correctionness. this is the ongoing depth of rebellion. meanwhile, gutsier voices speak the unspeakable truths. no wonder they aren't at the amas. let's look at the facts. hundreds died at the hands of profiling? i don't know where he gets that number. what i think he's probably angry is at stop and frisk which has been called profiling as it prevents deaths by getting illegal guns off the street. ray dekelly has saved more my norty lives.
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if he had real gut, he would condemn the gang violence. but that would take real courage, something that doesn't pay in pop culture. better to mirror your peers. it pays for the coke. >> yes, it's true. kimberly, there are no true rebels in pop music anymore. they just say the same thing over and over again. >> yes, because they have the script. like, if you say this, people well like you. they want to be popular. they want to be part of the cool set but without doing their background research or thinking independently for themselves. that's what he did. who is he kidding? what was that horrible len peop coat he was wearing? it was disgusting. >> last night, katy perry performed one of her hit songs and she was dressed as a geisha. or like this. and there are people that find this to be racist. have we lost our minds? is this -- >> on that we are. anybody who believes there's not racial profiling in this
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has lost their minds. >> you avoid the question. >> the geisha, i agree. i don't believe that's racist. the racial profile, the idea that racial profiling does not exist in this country is just nuts. >> i say it exists but i don't think hundreds of people are dying. >> i agree with that. >> i'm watching the amas and watching for "homeland" to come on and it's a great show so far and, you know, the best hip-hop album comes u and macklemore wins. and then he does this trayvon martin tribute which seemed so out of place. it was just quirky and awkward. i guess kimberly's right saying he's just looking for a little bit of -- i like you. it was out of place. >> as a consummate rapper and hip-hop aficionado, are you willing to overlook this
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predictable nature from mackle more? >> i was surprised, given how much i know about rap, that i'd never heard of this guy in my life. and rugged man. i saw him on "red eye." does this guy sing about sunshine, unicorns? i'm sure we would not find anything misogynist in his lyrics. >> i don't know, i've never listened to him. all right, coming up. >> "thrift shop," you've heard that. >> no, i haven't. >> sing it. come on, come on. >> ♪ you got to go to the thrift shop ♪ >> yeah, that's exactly how it goes. well done. >> just like that. ♪ i got $20 in my pocket >> keep you were day jobs. >> what do dennis rodman, anthony weiner and miley cyrus have in common? they're not going to bob's thanksgiving feast. they did make "gq's" least
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list of 25th least influential people. coming in fifth place, the pope, justin bieber, anthony weeper, paula deen and dennis rodman. coming in sixth place, miley cyrus. she should have been in first. >> i have a couple issues with the list. they say president obama and edward snowden, i would disagree with you. they're not the least influentials. does any of the five not on this list make not not one of the most at least influential people of 2013?
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>> the at least inyfluential -- >> are there any magazines that you like or only those that you used to run? >> them calling least influential is like dana calling me short. they're perfume inserts and beta males that haven't shaved. >> your buddy dennis rodman is on there. are you surprised? >> not at all surprised that he's on there. i was looking at the list. i think overall, hollywood and entertainers are less influential than they used to be with some exceptions. the exceptions are in country music. i think if you look across pop culture, i've got some pictures made of blake shelton, brad paisley, carrie underwood.
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it's a part of the country we don't talk a lot ant, because people get along with their business and they're not causing trouble. >> greg's with you on this by the way. >> i think they're being kind of haters here. why do they have to drag down will smith by saying will smith and his family. like pope benedict, why is he on there? >> it's "gq," nobody reads that. >> apparently our producers are. >> there are people on there that are influential. >> the map who i love that wears the weirdest outfits is shawn our producer. >> and at the thrift shop. >> wait, shawn shops at the
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thrift shop. is that true? >> true story. >> how edgy. >> pop culture does have -- a lot of these people have influence, more than we do, because they exist in pop culture. that's where the young minds are that they are polluting. ♪
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♪ all right. time for "one more thing." kick it off, please. >> as a former prosecutor, i've served on death penalty panels in los angeles. wherever you find yourself on the spectrum of supporting death penalty, if you're for justice, you should read this book. it's called "the death of punishment, searching for justice." >> great holiday book. >> this is important if you care about justice in this country. a professor of law has written it. >> once again, the big powers did not mention the united states, including the pastor who was held in prison in iran. it's not just him. a lot of others are. but churches continue to be
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burned. christians continue to be killed. people getting maimed, including children. when, oh when, are you in the muslim faith going to step forward and say your faith is a faith that doesn't kill women and children. >> and the cowards didn't negotiate that. last night i had this huge dilemma "walking dead" and a big sunday night football game. we dvr'd the "walking dead" and watched the football game. i thought the broncos had it at halftime, it was 24-0. >> but they lost. >> how did that happen? >> i did have dreams of my five, but i'm not going to say it, because i have something to
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promote. i'm hosting for greta tonight. i have some great people on, including pat buchanan and charles krauthammer. >> where is the liberal on that show with you? >> in spirit. >> nice, as they should be. >> are you suggesting we kill all liberals? >> i didn't say that. >> i would have agreed. oh, i'm kidding. i'm next. i hate these people! >> oh, my god, your eyes are red. >> today, lifetime channel, the network has apparently run out of contemporary crazy female murderers. i think they've run through everyone. because now they're doing a lizzie boardon movie. they have to go back 150 years to find another murderous female. remember, she took an ax and killed her family. this network is amazing. they make so money off crazy
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female murderers. >> and female gambling addicts. >> i should be called the bob beckel dating network. >> don't forget to dvr this show. see you back here tomorrow. the other nuclear option. the president strikes a deal with iran. but even some of his democratic allies fear it could blow up in his face. this is "special report." good evening. i'm bret baier. it's difficult to find anyone outside the white house who has many good things to say tonight about an agreement easing sanctions on iran in exchange for a short pause in its nuclear program. but there are plenty of naysayers, even in the president's own